“When I first came down here it was really nice, we shared we helped each other, there wasn’t a lot of drama. It was nice, it was cool it was like camping. The longer you stay the harder it is to get out of here. You become comfortably numb. It’s not easier to live down here, it’s harder.
Once you do get out, it feels strange to be up there. I moved in with my daughter and it was too hot in the house because I was used to the cold. All of it was strange and getting along with people up here – we call it up here, the normal world because you’re not normal anymore. We have our own laws, we do pretty much what we want. It’s harder than people think. I’m not all sloppy, some people are that’s their choice. You don’t have to be a product of your environment. People look down on us, it’s not that, there’s a lot of smart and talented people here and for whatever reason, they’re not using their talents. Some people work. Even though you get a job, you still have to find a way to survive or a place with lower rent. I’m 56 years old and I don’t want to be out here. I’m tired. My dog, he’s tired too.